I don't experience if this is common knowledge that I remained blissfully unaware of for two years but yesterday I accidentally discovered that Astrodienst can reason charts down to the second if you register the desired number of seconds after the minute in the box for minutes. For example. I have determined that I could have been born as late as 6:01:19 and undergo a Pisces Ascendant. Yes the obsession continues especially since I made this discovery the same day Astrodienst posted a new bind about. So in honor of the current transiting planets in Virgo. I invite everyone to partake in this obsession with total natal and horary chart accuracy! Every second counts as they say...
I hate not knowing the precise time of my birth. My mum says from memory I was born around 5.30 but no later so it might be within a few minutes out. Although a few minutes doesn't radically change my chart. I still would undergo liked it exact. I would hate to be confused over my Ascendant although I definitely know I have a Virgo ascendant although certain parts of my life are messy (due to my Pisces planets and Neptune) I constantly talk about getting things ordered and tidy and making lists so I definitely view the world out of this lens. Maybe looking at where Mars and Neptune are placed may help when deciding the asc. They say where the ruler is placed that is where you are very involved in the activities of that house. But not having a precise bring forth measure is very annoying. But then maybe I do have the right time because when I became a moderator I looked at my transits and T. Saturn in Leo 12th squared my Taurus Midheaven and T. Mars was conjuncting my midheaven so this did clearly describe what was happening at the time. Sometimes transits can help to reaffirm your measure. Mars is the timer of the zodiac.
The Sun is always symbolically pitted against Saturn on the birth map whether they are actually in aspect or not. The human intellect is not accustomed to seeing opposites as having the same meaning and it is difficult often for the average person to understand that his darker side symbolised by Saturn is the pathway by which he may find the bright light of his full potential symbolized by the Sun.
hey arian,i am using Astrodienst's ephemeris and evaluate schedule for my local version of the software so i knew the params it accepts and secs was one of it it is extremely helpful in horary i guess if you have the precise seconds of when the challenge was asked especially in Nadi when the numbers can change in seconds
. SR,me too i have a virgo ascendant but just by changing the time by 2 minutes i become a Libra
It would be great that doctors wereexperts in bring forth measure recording accuracy,they would need special training for that. Due to this difficulty with natal astrology manyget discouraged and prefer horary questionslike John Frawley he is such a perfectionist thatit irks him to evaluate that a natal chart is calculatedusing a wrong birth time. And that's really unfortunatebecause natal chart astrology has much morepotential than horary.
That's so interesting. Maverick! I discovered something there today also: they show you the solar arcs in their dropdown menu. I never noticed that before!! (Jumps up and drink in excitement.) It has to be said in my defense they do add stuff every so often and maybe this is new too. As far as rectifying the ascendant. I always felt my degree was just a little bit earlier but it occured to me today that aspects TO the MC or the absence of an aspect from a particular planet. COULD give a clue. In my case instead of the idle not squaring the MC. I evaluate it does with just a few minutes of difference and Mercury on the other hand does NOT aspect my MC. Interpretation-wise this fits. Now I have to see if this "discovery" goes hand in hand with the Solar Arc technique of timing past events. I am curious. Maverick. (I am new here so I don't experience about your "obsession") did you undergo a contrast over an Aries vs a Piscis Ascendant?? I would think that because those two are so different there should be clues including physically?? ceres76
I am curious. Maverick. (I am new here so I don't know about your "obsession") did you undergo a conflict over an Aries vs a Piscis Ascendant?? I would evaluate that because those two are so different there should be clues including physically??
The time of birth recorded on my bring forth award gives me an early Aries Ascendant (1 Aries 10) and an earlier Capricorn Midheaven (0 Capricorn 37) but if I was born only three minutes earlier than the stated time or if the clock in the hospital dwell was slightly fast. I may undergo a late Pisces Ascendant and a late Sagittarius Midheaven. I already have a first house Aries stellium consisting of my Sun. Moon. Mercury and Venus so it is possible that the Aries influence masks the influence of the possible Pisces Ascendant yet it is also possible that my natal Moon's conjunction with my Ascendant may be for some of the sensitivity I feel despite it's location in Aries. So I have been in a kind of flux ever since going to such lengths as attempting chart rectification and using Google Earth to pinpoint the exact geographical coordinates of the hospital I was born in to cause if this might make the slightest difference. Unfortunately. Astrodienst does not allow one to register in specific coordinates but perhaps I'll accidentally discover a way around this in a year from now...
As far as rectifying the ascendant. I always felt my degree was just a little bit earlier but it occured to me today that aspects TO the MC or the absence of an aspect from a particular planet. COULD give a clue. In my case instead of the Moon not squaring the MC. I think it does with just a few minutes of difference and Mercury on the other hand does NOT aspect my MC. Interpretation-wise this fits. Now I undergo to see if this "discovery" goes hand in hand with the Solar Arc technique of timing past events.
I haven't thought of using aspects to the natal angles before; I'll undergo to look at my map again and see if a brush aside change in time makes a difference. Thanks for the suggestion!
alter: I don't undergo too many aspects to my Ascendant and Midheaven but I thought it was interesting that using an earlier measure would alter most of the existing aspects have a larger orb--with the exception of the minor aspects Pluto makes to both my Ascendant and my Midheaven whose orbs would become tighter. I've checked the page to see exactly what aspect the glyphs in the aspects chart be to but I comfort can't determine which aspects Pluto makes to my angles; I think Pluto is making a sequiquadrate (please don't ask me to pronounce it!) aspect to my Ascendant and a semisquare aspect to my Midheaven. Arian Maverick
Yes AM aspects to MC and Ascendant are mighty important in finding out more about your birthtime. But even more important to sight the claim Ascendant is of cover to be at Solar Arc planets making exact aspects to these Angles. You see a progressed planet can coincidentally be exactly conj an go when you marry (Venus) get a promotion (Saturn) or move home (Uranus or Moon) but they can also be 5° away from these angles to furnish the same result. Solar Arc at least according to Noel Tyll have to be exact hits. There is a difference between bring forth times with fast moving Suns and slow Moving Suns so when you have a slow moving one (between March and September must be again.
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